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Jacques Cinq-Mars
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« on: July 24, 2003, 03:53:22 PM »

For the few of you who may have read my earlier "outburst" (Molecular Anthropology Board, "  “Vive la BBC”…), you may want to have a look at the following "cannibalistic" spin provided by " CBS Evening News" and "AP".

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CBS Evening News, July 21, 2003 19:48:49

Bones Of Man's Cannibal Ancestors

MADRID, July 21, 2003


Today's humans, Homo sapiens, are the only surviving species of the larger family known as hominids, which scientists say included the Homo antecessor, the forerunners of modern humans.

 (AP) Ancient fossils from what archaeologists believe are modern man's ancestors —cannibals who lived a million years ago — have turned up at a dig site in northern Spain.

 For the full piece, CLICK HERE.

I really think that something should be done about this kind of inept reporting.

Jacques Cinq-Mars

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2003, 10:42:33 PM »

Jacques:

I've distributed this elsewhere for the edification of others, but I notices something on rereading it that didn't quite strike me before.  Namely, that there is absolutely *nothing* in the article that tells you *why* the writer(or Carbonell, for that matter) thought the Atapuerca people were "cannibals".  I'll say the reporting was inept!  But IMHO, "science reporting" tends to be pretty disgraceful as a whole anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2003, 05:08:32 PM »

Well, it is true that cannibalism was reported from  antecessor in a published article in a respected journal a few years ago.  The exact reference eludes my memory, but it should be easy to find when I get home (within 10 days) if anyone needs it.  And yes it's true that for the moment, anyway,  the Beeb is about as bad in science reporting as it gets.

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2003, 11:19:46 AM »

I would certainly agree with Jacques that Atapuerca and its researchers deserve more serious treatment, as do the remains and researchers at a variety of other localities where "cannibalism" is invoked. But one has to remember that to organizations such as CBS, ABC, CNN...... "news" is considered to be a sequence of 30-second soundbites surrounded by the commercials that pay everyone's wages and should not be confused with a serious attempt to impart serious information.

BTW, a *very* good overview of cannibalism --albeit restricted to the prehistoric US Southwest-- is Turner & Turner's 1999 "Man Corn," where  an attempt is made to put "cannibalism" in cultural context, as well as to look at the larger issues surrounding inter-personal violence.

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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2003, 02:14:04 AM »

Ken:

I think I'm going to look into "Man Corn".  I've heard of the book somewhere, and I've read a few serious and reasonable(sounding) treatments of the subject.  It never hurts to try to learn about these things in their proper context.  Which isn't what some of this "science news" is doing.  Un fortunately.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2003, 03:35:28 PM »

Well, it is true that cannibalism was reported from  antecessor in a published article in a respected journal a few years ago.  The exact reference eludes my memory, but it should be easy to find when I get home (within 10 days) if anyone needs it.  And yes it's true that for the moment, anyway,  the Beeb is about as bad in science reporting as it gets.

Dar

Neither do I have the exact reference(s) on hand – too (temporarily handicapped – I hope --  up to reach out for it), but a bit of information can also be found (about "cannibalism") on the Atapuerca Website, in which references to it can be found in the "Trinchera Dolina" pages. These can be accessed HERE.

It would appear that what we have here is just a simple case of gross, journalistic over-generalization or distortion. "Cannibalism" sells well and I suspect that the appearance of this word in press releases causes the "hits" to increase. But then, …

… here is a quote from another informative site (CLICK HERE) that suggests that the researchers may have, all by themselves, in this and other venues, overstated the "cannibalism" issue.

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In level TD-6, which dates to 800,000 years ago, the human remains appeared literally covered with stone tools and flakes, as if there was some kind of relationship between them, and the researchers began to suspect something. It isn´t normal to find human fossils. In fact, it’s extremely rare to find remains in the mouth of a cave, as Dolina was at that time. It is more common to find remains of meals consumed by carnivores, or by humans, taking advantage of the tranquility and shade. Was it possible that the fossils found in TD-6 were the remains of a cannibalistic feast? The suspicions were soon confirmed. Hundreds of thousands of years ago, Dolina served as a dining room for a macabre banquet whose main course was human beings. The cutmarks on the bones are clear: at least on two phalanges and one cranium there are signs of defleshing. There could be no doubt that, at the least, the bodies were cut up, or dismembered, and the flesh was removed from the bones. Although cases of defleshing are known which do not entail consuming the meat, the placement of the cutmarks on the bones demonstrated that these human bodies were cut up using the same techniques applied to the animals which were consumed. It’s very likely that for these primitive humans the difference between the body of a deer and a human cadaver didn´t exist yet. After all, the first signs of funerary behavior could be at the nearby site of the Sima de los Huesos, albeit much later in time. We don’t know why they did it, but we can affirm that the first Europeans were cannibals.

Ergo, in this case, the messengers may not be the only ones to blame.

Jacques Cinq-Mars




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