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shenzhou
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« on: April 10, 2005, 05:42:05 AM »

John Hawks has come to the conclusion that the LB1 Homo floresiensis is 'beyond any doubt or question pathological' :

"Along with four of the best anatomists that I know, I had the opportunity to see detailed pictures of the LB1 postcrania.

The specimen is beyond any doubt or question pathological.

This is very clearly shown by many details that are either not depicted or are not clear in the photos in the original Nature paper. It is not my place to provide more information about these details; my understanding is that a thorough presentation of them is forthcoming. I will say that this specimen has morphological characters that would indicate severe developmental abnormalities even if the skull had never been found. This is in no way a close call.

It remains to be shown whether the pathology in the specimen explains its brain size. Examination of the endocast shows features that are highly unusual. It would seem to me remarkable if the occurrence of these features was purely coincidental with the postcranial and cranial pathology.

My suggestion of australopithecine affinity was based strongly on the anatomy of the pelvis and the size of the brain. Since the specimen is pathological, I no longer trust that either feature characterized the Flores population rather than this single individual.

I also saw the other skeletal specimens. These have not been described, so I will not talk about them, although their existence has been widely cited as evidence that LB1 was typical of its population. A look at the rest of the sample lends little credence to this idea.

The bottom line is that this specimen cannot be assumed to be representative of the population from which it came. Any interpretation that starts with the assumption that LB1 is normal should be viewed with extreme skepticism. "

http://johnhawks.net/weblog/fossils/flores/australopithecine_retraction.html
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Jacques Cinq-Mars
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2005, 12:23:01 PM »

John Hawks has come to the conclusion that the LB1 Homo floresiensis is 'beyond any doubt or question pathological' :

"Along with four of the best anatomists that I know, I had the opportunity to see detailed pictures of the LB1 postcrania.

The specimen is beyond any doubt or question pathological."

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http://johnhawks.net/weblog/fossils/flores/australopithecine_retraction.html

Welcome to the Forum, “shenzhou”, and thanks for bringing up John Hawks’ recent “retraction” [re: his initial statement(s) on the nature of Homo floresiensis] which I had not had a chance to read.

While I am not in a position to fully appreciate the fine details of the palaeontological evidence he is referring to, his “recantation” can certainly be viewed as suggesting that some form of well articulated reality check should (will) be coming out soon. A welcome announcement in the context of what has quickly and unfortunately become a rather muddled debate and (mostly) media driven controversy. And I am sure that others will soon follow suit with complementary critical appraisals of the original Nature Homofloresiensis  “declaration”, that should (will) focus on the whole/important biogeographic issue of endemic dwarfism within Wallacea and neighbouring areas, as well as on the rather curious (anomalous ?) equation that has been made by Morwood between a perfectly respectable lithic assemblage and the purported, so-called -- small-brained (sensu Pliocene/Early Pleistocene -- "Hobbit” population.

Jacques Cinq-Mars

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2005, 04:59:52 PM »

Jacques and all:

I have absolutely no idea what "Homo floresiensis" is or isn't.  But my observation of the controversies surrounding the discovery is, that it's not only "media driven" but also "personality and ego driven".  Which doesn't make for good science, IMO.
Anne G
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