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Alec Christensen
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« on: August 30, 2002, 09:52:18 PM »

In case anyone hasn't seen the news yet, the judge overseeing the Kennewick Man case ruled against the US government today, ordering that scientists should have access to the remains. We will see what the consequences are, and if the government appeals.

http://www.kennewick-man.com/

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2002, 11:31:50 PM »

Alec:

I haven't seen the news on this --- yet.  But then I just got home an hour ago.    Personally, I hope that scientists and Indians can work out something reasonable.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2002, 10:46:59 AM »

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In case anyone hasn't seen the news yet, the judge overseeing the Kennewick Man case ruled against the US government today, ordering that scientists should have access to the remains. We will see what the consequences are, and if the government appeals.

http://www.kennewick-man.com/

Alec Christensen


Thanks for coming up with this one. Certainly good news for many of us, directly or indirectly involved in New World palaeoanthropological studies. I also hope that (again, if upheld) it will create a precedent that should allow researchers to put a stop to other ongoing attempts on the part of various native groups, to claim (and rebury) equally ancient human remains, on the spurious grounds that these individuals are indeed their "ancestors". It might also allow workers to rexamine a few recent cases where reburials have been very, very quietly carried out, and this with the support and blessing of the US federal government. A list of the latter was circulated at the Clovis and Beyond conference. If I can find it, I'll pass it on.

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2002, 01:16:20 PM »

The New York Times has an article on this

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/01/science/01KENN.html?ex=1031884972&ei=1&en=ae65\

I hope this is the entire address...it's what appeared on my screen.

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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2002, 03:29:16 PM »

All,

The Kennewick case presents us with a very good example of where and when the use of the P-word (i.e., Politics -- briefly discussed in an earlier exchange with Anne Gilbert: Molecular Anthropology/What “is” molecular anthropology?) can and, in fact, should be allowed in the context of our ongoing discussions. If we exclude from the picture the claims of the weirdos who are frequently attracted to such cases, we are left with those formulated by local native groups whose interest in the matter were clearly politically motivated. This was made particularly obvious when they brought forth, as one of their main argument, the totally spurious notion that elements of their “oral tradition” could be used in support of their claim.  Also politically motivated were the inane responses of the Corps of Engineer and Mr. Babbitt which were essentially meant to defuse what was perceived as a "hot" and delicate issue, through a set of misdirected appeasement solutions and decisions. At any rate, I think we should all be thankful for the action taken by a few of our colleagues in this matter and for the court ruling. Now, we can only hope that the lawyers will not let this thing drag on forever, as they are prone to do.

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2002, 03:47:01 PM »


All,

The Kennewick case presents us with a very good example of where and when the use of the P-word (i.e., Politics -- briefly discussed in an earlier exchange with Anne Gilbert: Molecular Anthropology/What “is” molecular anthropology?) can and, in fact, should be allowed in the context of our ongoing discussions.

- Since you brought it up, might I ask what's happening with NAGPRA? I'm interested in issues of heritage management, but lately I've not been really keeping up with what's going on outside Malta, since we just enacted a new heritage bill and my attentions were centred on that.

JCM:
If we exclude from the picture the claims of the weirdos who are frequently attracted to such cases, we are left with those formulated by local native groups whose interest in the matter were clearly politically motivated.

- Very true...a good article which covers most of these points is
Smith, Laurajane
1994  Heritage Management as Postprocessual Archaeology?, "Antiquity", Vol 68 Nr259.

Her focus is on Australia, but much of what she says is valid for other contexts.

JCM:

This was made particularly obvious when they brought forth, as one of their main argument, the totally spurious notion that elements of their “oral tradition” could be used in support of their claim.

- Smith also discusses something similar, when she speaks of claims by natives to various sites and the problems people in heritage management face when tackling such issues.


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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2002, 07:33:43 AM »

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- Since you brought it up, might I ask what's happening with NAGPRA? I'm interested in issues of heritage management, but lately I've not been really keeping up with what's going on outside Malta, since we just enacted a new heritage bill and my attentions were centred on that.

- Very true...a good article which covers most of these points is
Smith, Laurajane
1994  Heritage Management as Postprocessual Archaeology?, "Antiquity", Vol 68 Nr259.


A Google search should provide you with all you want to know about NAGPRA.

Thanks for the Smith reference.

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