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Robert Henvell
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« on: February 01, 2006, 09:30:48 PM »

Jacques and all,
My notes contain a partial reference to---R Beebe found the jaws of  "domesticated" dogs at an Old Crow Basin camp site.They were tentatively dated to circa 28000bce [cal].

Questions: Were they definately the jaws of canines and not of wolves?What criteria did R Beebe use to establish that they were domesticated?Humans and dogs may have travelled together  to each others benefit during that era,but there is no other  diagnostic evidence of  domesticated canines until about 13000bce.

The notes may have come from one of Jacques articles??
Dar,
If  this is on the wrong forum,please change it and I will find it.
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Jacques Cinq-Mars
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2006, 10:46:00 PM »

Jacques and all,
My notes contain a partial reference to---R Beebe found the jaws of  "domesticated" dogs at an Old Crow Basin camp site.They were tentatively dated to circa 28000bce [cal].

Questions: Were they definately the jaws of canines and not of wolves?What criteria did R Beebe use to establish that they were domesticated?Humans and dogs may have travelled together  to each others benefit during that era,but there is no other  diagnostic evidence of  domesticated canines until about 13000bce.

The notes may have come from one of Jacques articles??
Dar,
If  this is on the wrong forum,please change it and I will find it.

Bob,

Don't worry, you posted your query on the right "board".

The find you must be referring to is  that of a dog (Canis familiaris) right mandible discovered around 1975/76 at a site called Loc. 11A, on the Old crow River, Northern Yukon Territory. It was originally reported in:

Beebe, Brenda F. 1980. A Domestic Dog (Canis familiaris L.) of Probable Pleistocene Age from Old Crow, Yukon Territory, Canada. Canadian Journal of Archaeology.

I do not have access to the other pertinent refences, but I can tell you at this time that the dog in question -- found in a very disturbed sedimentary context (a Holocene river bar containing a mix of Late Pleistocene and Holocene faunal material), actually dates back to the Late Holocene.

Jacques
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2006, 11:18:07 AM »

... and here is the "dog".

Jacques


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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2006, 01:47:15 PM »

... and here is the "dog".

Jacques
   
Thank you Jacques.The Holocene date resolves the problem.
Bob
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