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Author Topic: Homo Sapiens west of the Black Sea  (Read 1268 times)
Robert Henvell
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« on: February 24, 2006, 12:12:55 PM »

There is no definite evidence of Homo sapiens west of the Black Sea prior to circa 38850
+/-1100 years BCE, [cal],which is the AMS date for the right ramus of a human jaw at
Pestora au Oase  in Romania.Until future excavations provide new information,the assignment of any earlier dates are purely speculation.
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2006, 03:28:30 PM »

Robert:

Bear in mind that Mellars obviously doesn't think so, and hasn't thought so for a long, long time.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2006, 09:53:20 PM »

Robert:

Bear in mind that Mellars obviously doesn't think so, and hasn't thought so for a long, long time.
Anne G

Mellars argument for a pre-Pestera cu Oase anatomically modern human  fossil in Europe hinges totally on the identification of the mandibular fragment from layer 11 at Bacho Kiro.  Mellars (Nature, vol 432, 25 Nov 2004, p. 461)  identifies this as  "probably"  AMH by citing Churchill & Smith (2000,  Yearbook of Physical Anthropology  43, "Makers of the Early Aurignacian of Europe").  In reality, Churchill & Smith say (2000, p. 84): "....The single human specimen from Bacho Kiro layer 11 does not provide many useful features for taxonomical classification...",  although C  & S add that radiography revealed a non-taurodont root for the deciduous M1, "which might suggest modern human affinities". 

"might suggest" is hardly reason, for me anyway, to assume "probably".  While taurodont molars are  characteristic of Neanderthal, I don't think it's true that all Neanderthal molars are taurodont.  And while taurodontism is not characteristic of AMH, I'm fairly sure taurodontism is not totally absent in AMH.  For more of my opinion of Bacho Kiro layer 11 see previous Palanth discussion HERE.  Of course, there are opposing opinions.

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