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 on: January 28, 2010, 01:58:24 AM 
Started by trehinp - Last post by aggsbach
Two sites of the Neandertal-associated Middle Paleolithic of Iberia,
dated to as early as approximately 50,000 years ago, yielded
perforated and pigment-stained marine shells. The article is convincing and for me not very surprising .
Just another example that we should assume at least some symbolic capacities for the Neanderthals


Johannes

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 on: January 15, 2010, 02:02:56 AM 
Started by Jacques Cinq-Mars - Last post by Rokcet Scientist

The hobbits are assuming ever greater importance as the remains are better studied and the implications become apparent.


I have to disagree.
If HF and his ancestors coexisted in time, probably not in place with HE, in all variants, HNS, and HSS, and then went extinct, I'd say theirs was not a 'defining' chapter in human evolution. But an abberation, a non-starter if you wish (from our present perspective of course). HE, in all variants, HNS, and HSS being all around HF means that they, HE, in all variants, HNS, and HSS, literally passed HF by. Apparently without consequences. Another pointer at HF's inconsequence for hominid evolution, imo.

I don't see "the hobbits are assuming ever greater importance". It looks more like a sideshow in human evolution: yes, it was there all the time, but nobody ever took notice for 2 million years...! Apparently HF was THAT uninteresting to the 'surrounding' hominins. No matter the specific reasons.

I wouldn't be surprised if HF will prove to have more than a slight connection with Australopithecines, and that his classification as 'homo' will be disputed.

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 on: January 15, 2010, 01:58:44 AM 
Started by trehinp - Last post by trehinp

Interesting paper summary from Science.

Quote
Neandertal Jewelry Shows Their Symbolic Smarts

Science, 15 January 2010 (Volume 327, Issue 5963)

A handful of marine mollusk shells, possibly used as necklaces and paint cups, shows that Neandertals expressed themselves symbolically, say the authors of a paper published online this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/327/5963/255

 I haven't read the paper as I don't subscribe to Science.

Anyone to comment on it?

Paul

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 on: January 15, 2010, 12:46:34 AM 
Started by Charlie Hatchett - Last post by Rokcet Scientist
I think that by 750 Kya hominins had already been feeding on seafood for the largest part of the protein in their diet for at least 1,5 million years, living and trekking along the contemporary coastlines as they did. Now it seems water was also an important source of starch. Interesting.

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 on: January 15, 2010, 12:22:45 AM 
Started by E.P. Grondine - Last post by Rokcet Scientist

My own thinking is that we have a common neanderthal/sapiens ancestor here


I agree.

Imo HE was the ancestor of just about all hominin species and variants that followed (and cross-bred), and HE in multiple variants/apparitions like H. Antecessor, H. Heidelbergensis, Meganthropus paleojavanicus, HE pekinensis, etc. was the one who 'discovered' the world*! First on foot, following the coastlines of THAT era, later by boat, crossing straits and seas as sea levels rose and coastlines changed dramatically.

*including the Americas! After all, if HE was in Georgia by 1,77 Mya, and in Malaysia by 1,83 Mya, and in southern Europe, Java, and China by ca. 1,6 Mya, then he was clearly on a course to walk across the Bering landbridge. I bet he did! Don't forget sea levels were 400 feet lower, and coastlines VERY different from today's. HE's habitat THEN is now submerged under 400 feet of seawater and far out to sea...

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 on: January 14, 2010, 11:45:00 PM 
Started by Charlie Hatchett - Last post by Rokcet Scientist
It ties in with the chinese updating, actually predating, HE pekinensis's age by 200,000 years to 700 Kya (could also be one-upmanship).

If HE was in Dmanisi, Georgia by 1,77 Mya, and in Malaysia by 1,83 Mya, and Meganthropus paleojavanicus, an HE variant, had already reached Java by 1,57 Mya, and another HE variant had reached China by 1,6 Mya, then it must certainly have been possible for HE to have reached western Europe by the same time. No surprises there. All the pieces of the puzzle seem to fit ever neater and tidier.

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 on: January 10, 2010, 02:53:22 AM 
Started by Rokcet Scientist - Last post by Don
Sure, Don. If you post 'm integrally, complete with my (modest) copyright notice. Got to actually do the PP though, don't have 'm on the shelf, and it may be a day or two before I can sit down to do it.
I can get you high quality, hi-res JPGs. Where do you want 'm?

Thanks very much.

Send them to:

don@donsmaps.com

Much appreciated, send the copyright notice with the pics, not a problem.

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 on: January 10, 2010, 01:58:12 AM 
Started by Rokcet Scientist - Last post by Rokcet Scientist
Sure, Don. If you post 'm integrally, complete with my (modest) copyright notice. Got to actually do the PP though, don't have 'm on the shelf, and it may be a day or two before I can sit down to do it.
I can get you high quality, hi-res JPGs. Where do you want 'm?

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 on: January 09, 2010, 10:27:01 PM 
Started by Rokcet Scientist - Last post by Don
I would like to get some high resolution copies of those to put on my website, donsmaps.com

Is that possible?

Don

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 on: January 09, 2010, 12:39:34 AM 
Started by Rokcet Scientist - Last post by Rokcet Scientist
It was.
I took the original RAWs on 3 December, 2.58 pm.
ISO 100, 1/10th, F/8.0.

Here's another one.

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